I've kept quite up till now, but never assume anything. I've had 0
problems with ESX and few if any with View. In my mind, as an IT
Professional, if you're telling your customers drop dates for products
that aren't at least close to gold master, well then that's the chance
you take. To me, Vmware's taking a responsible approach by not
releasing something that's bugged beyond belief. I can understand your
fustration of promising something to customers, and than not having
anything to give them, but would you rather have dealt with your
customers having a bad product or no product at all? I'd rather wait a
bit and have a car that runs, than to have a car now, but that's in the
shop every other week. Personally, for me, credibility in a software
company is how stable their products are, not when they release new
features / products. You've obviously got some bad history with
VMware, anyone can see that from your posts, and I'm sorry to hear it,
and I'm sure we've all been there with one company or another, but
don't assume that since the rest of us haven't commented back that we
agree with you.
I
personally know three other shops that have evaluated VMware and
Citrix's solution, 2 went with View, one with Citrix. What does that
mean for everyone else? Evaluate both, and decided what is best for
your environment. I could sit here and complain about certain issues
I've had with Citrix, but what's the point? If that's not someone
else's experience with that company, why am I going to go on and on and
on about it?
RKelly couldn't have said it better. I'd rather have Vaporware from a
company than for them to release something that shouldn't have gotten
out of alpha stages. Who knows maybe PC over IP will be horrible, maybe
it'll be decent, until I get my hands on a final version, I'm not going
to pass judgement. I seem to remember people saying a long time ago
that software emulation of hardware would never be practicle and look
where we are now.
... and since I've responded this much, with respect to the person who
posted the conjecture and fact about Citrix, your fact about memory
usage was wrong in the testing I have done in my environment. Citrix
XenDesktop VMs used significantly more memory than the same Desktop VM
running in VMware View. I can't say either install was difficult,
however the setup for View, at least for me in my environment was much
quicker than for XenDesktop (from server builds to getting a desktop VM
up and running.)
Now
VMware has dropped the ball on SSO, and ICA is much more polished, and
you customize a lot more in Citrix so please don't assume I'm a fanboy
for VMware and I'm against Citrix. I'm not, they're a good company,
and have good products (of which we use quite a few), and Xen Desktop
was close to winning our bid.
I really, really can't stress
enough how important it is to evaluate both products for the
environment it's going to be running in and make you decison based on
your own results. As you can see from both sides with all of these
posts, it could go either way.
They have done that for a very long time now....very long time